| CD Baby DIY Musician Podcast |
 June 29,
2009
Ep.65 : Matthew Ebel - Stream your concerts to the world
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| CD Baby Music Podcasts |
 Music Discovery
 Hip Hop
 60's Pop
 Rockabilly
 Top Sellers
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The audio clips on the cdbaby.com website are now using a little [>] play button that keeps the listener on the page, without needing any extra software to listen.
Also, they are the full-quality MP3 files only, now. No more lo-fi mono MP3 files. I made this change very reluctantly, always trying to keep the dialup-modem user in mind, but since recent surveys show that 75% of internet users are on broadband, I'm imagining that most people who are actually interested in listening to music online have made the switch.
And it sounds SO much better!
For you webmaster geeks who are interested in using the same tool on your own website, here's the link: http://www.wimpyplayer.com/
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Ruined my day.
Make that week.
Make that year.
I now cannot listen on 87.5% of my computers (Linux).
Plus, there is no "play all", so I have to sit there and do *NOTHING* useful, or flip back and forth and back and forth to preview the full CD. Ugh.
Can't drag the playlist over to my MP3 player and queue up a stack full of CDs to pick out the ones I like.
Granted, I mostly used it to choose bands to play the venue instead of actually buying CDs, but I've been driving traffic (or trying to) to CDBaby for a long time with my .sig and various other means...
Anyway, it's enough to drive me away from using CDBaby to preview CDs, and I doubt I'll be the only one.
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hey Richard :
C'mon man quit crying. I'm in Linux 100% these days, and Flash 6 works fine. Flash for Firefox or Opera work great in any Linux from the last few years. Anyone who visits MySpace or YouTube needs Flash. So about 100% of people interested in music online at all have Flash. It's a safe bet.
But the "queue it up in my MP3 player" thing is exactly what was causing most people a problem. They hated having some other piece of software open just to listen to music, when all other websites seem to have the music right there directly embedded in the page.
And Richard I know your text-parsing skills, so a simple grep or preg_match of the HTML source for the page, looking for audio.cdbaby.com, will reveal the direct links to the MP3 files anyway, for those so inclined to use their own methods to listen. You could probably make a simple shell script to say ./listen $URL and that would automatically start piping the direct MP3 links from that page into your favorite MP3 player :-)
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Actually, Flash 9 for Linux is in beta -- but Flash 6 for Linux rarely, if ever, actually gives me any audio. I just get the animation, no sound :-(
There is also the fact that Flash invariably ends up crashing my browser, sooner or later...
Hopefully this is better for the majority of your buyers, but it's sure not better for me.
And I'll have to dig through some old source code to find the URLs, as Flash hides them.
Oooh, wait!
You've put back the links at the top for "play all"
Yay!!!
YOU ROCK!!!
Great for *both* kinds of users!
I shoulda known you'd come to that realization quickly. :-)
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Just for the record:
cdbaby.com now consistently and repeatedly crashes Netscape 7 under RedHat 7.
So my main desktop can't surf there.
Should I even ask what's with the "Waiting for google-analytics.com..." thing on other OSes/browsers...
:-v
I love CDBaby, but wish it was more backwards-compatible browser-OS-friendly.
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That was really funny Derek :>) You are pretty smart. You guys having it out in a battle of wits. This was very entertaining!
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on Saturday February 03 2007 @ 06:42PM PST [ reply | parent ] |
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Really hate the change. I and many friends have dial up and we feel cheated by the change. No consideration given to dial ups in general. Nothing else available where I live.
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Dear anonymous:
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
All of the clips are in lo-fi dialup speeds.
If you click the song name, it plays in lo-fi dialup speeds.
If you click the arrow to the left of the song, it plays in lo-fi dialup speeds.
If you click the green button above the song list, it plays in lo-fi diaup speeds.
ONLY if you click the purple "PLAY ALL SONGS hi-fi broadband" does it play in a quality to great for dial-ups to hear.
So... what are you complaining about?
The entire CD Baby site is very dial-up modem friendly. Much more so than any other music site.
- Derek
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In the 1800s traveling minstrels walked or rode about from town to town.The people suppored them on their merit.The people wern't stuck with music factor cookie cutter Music.The same is true again now because of CD baby only now we travel in cyber space instead of on foot.The Good Old Days Are Back
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Hey Derek:
It does sounds better! And thanks for the tech tip, as I didn't know about Wimpy until now. I'm going to give it a spin on my server, as it looks like it will work well with PHP/MySQL.
Duncan
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Does this affect the music files which are on the Hostbaby sites as
well? In other words - is there no lo-fi or hi-fi choices? In oher
words - do I need to do anything to fix/update those music files
which came from the CDBaby master music files?
BTW- thanks for the changes - I know you're always thinking of
ways to make things better.
Lorrie
Healing Sounsdscapes Inspired by the Sonoran Desert
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> Does this affect the music files which are on the Hostbaby sites?
Nope.
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Derek, I am a long-time customer who is totally aggravated that you changed this music format. The "play all songs" feature was the best way to go. You could listen to the music all the way thru while attending to other matters instead of sitting there wasting time clicking on each separate track. And, yes there are still alot of folks out there with dial-up who can't fork out the bucks for broadband. Beside the fact I like indie music the play all songs option was the primary reason I shopped your site. As stated, it was a time-saver for busy people. This change will significantly curtail my sampling & the associated shoping - bad decision. And, I am far from being alone on this.
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Steven - [PLAY ALL SONGS] is still there, as always. Go look.
We just replaced the part where you had to click on each song name to hear the song with a flash button. That's all.
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cdbaby sold out long ago when they went onto mainstream and accepting all kinds of crap music... when you have garbage, garbage comes out...
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Huh?
CD Baby has always been an artists' service, here for anyone to use, since the day I started it.
What do you mean "accepting all kinds of crap music"?
- Derek
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What do you mean "accepting all kinds of crap music"?
You see? thats what I meant!! Maybe its called deafness!
If you can't tell good from bad music, Then you oughtta go to the
Doctor!!
Best Of Luck Anyways!
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For the record, CDBaby has ALWAYS had an open policy of accepting any salable CD.
So they never "sold out"
And, sure, 90% of everything is crap, but so what?
There are also great browse/search mechanisms, plus the Editors' Picks in every genre.
If you can't find something great on CDBaby, you just don't like music.
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the only crap here is pauls comments...
shame,
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I agree, There are lots of great artist around that most people never get the opportunity to hear. CDBABY helps to make dreams come true and I am lucky to have come across their website. In memory of my late Mother, Betty Dempsey who passed on two years ago. She does not have a crappy voice! Go and listen at www.cdbaby.com/bettydempsey3
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What do yu mean crap??? Would you say that to a young musician trying to live a dream? Would you say this if it were your own relative??? "Crap?"
Wow...where has the "freedom of expressing one's self gone to? Just remember, for every "crappy song....there will be one listening to it and buying it!" Geez Derek.....anyway to stop the negativity?????
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The wonderful thing about music is that one person's idea of crap is another's idea of the best art ever.
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Paul, where can I find your 'crap music'? The music that you wrote, played sung and recorded? I'll give you a careful analysis and insightful review. Be open and honest Paul, tell me where I can hear it and I'll review it honestly and sincerely. I'll send you a copy of the review and let you decide whether you would like me to publish it. I'm genuinely interested in you and your musicianship, because, clearly, you really know what you are talking about, and it would be a real pleasure to find something new, in a different class from the norm. Please let me know where I can find it, pretty please?????
George Bolam: InZaneCountry
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Hi George! If you have a chance can you review my Mother's CD? She passed on about two years ago but I want to keep her music alive. Thanks in advance I would really appreciate it.
www.cdbaby.com/bettydempsey3
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Great move! I'm all for making it sound as good as possible.
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I believe it's now easier to get the mp3 of good quality free. There is no safety for ripping them off.
The system itself is ok but why give away the whole song?
I started to use the flash system a while ago but only with a cut out of the music, not the whole music.
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Hazim, I think (View/Source)is only revealing the 2:00 minute (or less) clips of audio location.
To me full length song is okay if it's very lo-fi like at http://www.stevencravis.com and hi-fi is okay only as long as it's short clips (not the full length song.
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If you know what to do, it has always been easy to get music for free on the web. If it plays on your PC, no matter where it comes from and no matter what the format, (even streamed music), you can do it, and anyone can. No special PC skills, you just have to know a little about the very, very basics of PC's. So, don't kid yourself, the music is available for free from this and any other website to those who know how. I can do it, and I don't know any code at all.
George Bolam: InZaneCountry
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Derek...thanks very much - it is really apreciated by me & many others I have directed to your site.
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great idea - how about changing the colour scheme - when you look at the site from best buy it's all white and with the headers it looks much better (in my opinion - tastes like music vary greatly) - just an idea...
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on Saturday December 23 2006 @ 07:40AM PST [ reply | parent ] |
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I just got broadband about 8 months ago but I know people like my son in Bethlehem PA where broadband is not available. I think that some means of providing for these folks should be considered. It's not their fault that they can't get broadband.
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You're right. 10% of cdbaby.com users are still on dialup modems, and that's why every page has a green [PLAY ALL] (lo-fi) button above the song list, so people on dial-up modems can listen just fine.
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Hey! Your right! How come that didn't seem to work last time I tried it?
Oh well, glad to see it is there for those who need it.
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Hmmm,
I've never understood why all else-one has to turn anything Derek does into a moral dilemma...
Then again,
Imagine helping a homeless person for 6 years straight on X-MAS Eve. On the 7th year; you cannot find him/her when suddenly, several days later, you see them elsewhere. They approach you outraged, screaming, insisting you didn’t help them out that year. Whether it was a dinner, clothing, doesn't matter.
Derek is a tech-term more than the man behind CD Baby these days. So, if you think about it, his need to expand is probably more prominent than someone's ill-regard for his choices.
I believe cdbaby.org hinders the creative process behind all things independently created. That term is a moniker in itself. Rhetoric, Crying-Wolf and shame for things that require none is all you see. The extermination of this forum or the removal of all things irrelevant (defined as, starting from scratch) is probably a better solution for all things CD Baby.
A great tool however, a debatable consumer-base.
Akin to terrorists is where most are on this forum.
Akin to nothing is where they must remain.
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I'm a graduate, but I don't understand a word of that last post. English please, or don't bother. Note to your Diary: 'Language is for communicating thoughts to others, so there's no point in constructing elaborate or even beautiful sentences that are unintelligible'.
George Bolam
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Holy cow! A whole lotta grumps around here!
Derek, thank you for your hard work. I've had my stuff on CD Baby for several years and you're constantly making it clear that you are out to help the independent artist.
Thank you thank you thank you and Happy New Year.
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Oh my god what did you do? After posting that last message, I went to my CD page and listened to my preview tracks. They sound amazing! They're on fire!
Can you share with us what method you use to encode these mp3s, or is it secret?
I usually use dbPoweramp with the LAME encoder on alt-preset-standard, but whatever you folks did sounds better!
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Same as you : lame encoder (except on Linux command-line, not using dbPoweramp), but I think for the 2-minute clips we use 128k setting instead of the alt-preset standard. (Though we use alt-preset standard for the clips that we distribute out to the digital music services.)
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Oh. Well then. I guess I'll just keep doin' what I'm doin'.
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Hi !
I only want to say you thank you Derek, thank you very much, you work hard to put cdbaby.com as high as possible, and we, well, I think most of artists here, are very gratefull tu you (sorry for my bad english, I am spanish and sure I am making mistakes :)
And... very glad to know you work on linux, my "real" work (8 hours every day), is as a linux programmer, I have been working on linux since... I don't remember exactly, possible 8 or 9 years. We make bussines software for accounting... So, I am very happy to know you use linux also.
Best regards from Spain,
Estanis
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/Estanis
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Nice work, Derek.
I've been using the Wimpy player for a while. Super light and clean and simple to install. I recommend it to anyone who wants to embed audio on their web page.
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Unbelievable negative comments! I have had nothing but opportunities since becoming a CD Baby member. Derek, thank you for continuing to better CD Baby for both the artist and consumer. Keeping up with technology is not an easy task and can be very expensive. Your work makes my work easier. Trust me, I need all the help I can get!
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Unbelievable.
First, great job, Derek.
Second, shame on the people who use your service to insult you.
Hey Angry People: If you don't like CDBaby, walk away... what's
keeping you here? Make constructive suggestions or get lost.
oops. now I'm angry. better go
:)
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well said - cd baby is a record shop not a record label - they do an immense amount for artists
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I haven't sold a single copy of my CD here yet, but I think CDbaby rocks, bigtime!!!!! Great site, and in so many ways!!!
George Bolam
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I've worked in the film business and music business for many
years. Derek and CDBaby are among the handful of businesses
that aren't trying to find a way to squeeze their content
providers and their customers. We are all lucky to have such an
honest and transparent company to work with. It took me a few
years to sign up with CDBaby but it's all been gravy since I did.
thanks Derek.
http://www.briancrain.com
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would like to say thank you to Derek, for giving indie music a place to grow.CDBaby.com is a great resource in helping you get exposed.Not all people buy our music, but they do listen and have knowledge of us(exposure). That is how you grow your profile and name.I think the indie hustle is hard, but if we don't support it who will? Stop pointing the finger and come up with ideas and solutions. Supporting each other is a start! How many of us really cop from cdbaby ourself. This is our shit, we gotta make it happen ourselves, together.
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How do I put a link to my cdbaby page in my flash website.
I know flash doesn't use html
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Have your web designer make the change in the .fla file -- the source for your published .swf flash web site and then re-publish the site. Voila!
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Hi - I am new with all this and do not know a single word of the jargon that the rest of you use. However, my book "Mount Berry schools Long Ago" is in 100% audio. cdbaby accepted it for insertion into their data base. This is just one more great aspect about Derek and wonderful staff
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Please read my comment insertion.
james
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OK....here's one that I just ran into.
Just got a new Toshiba laptop with - yes - Windows Vista...ughhh
MP3's will NOT play...on my site...on CD Baby...or any band sites I visit. This includes both of our albums (the Bluescasters) here on CD Baby. 2 days of poking around on forums - wellp...apears that Microsoft in it's infinate wisdom to protect us from ourselves made it so Windows Media Player 11 runing embeded in Vista will NOT open and play MP3s without ID tags. (this is he default setup most use and it is NOT changeable from everything I could read)
Now what?
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Thanks for that Kerry ,
I just got a Toshiba laptop and I can't play soundclips on cdbaby either.
Now what?
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> I can't play soundclips
Please email cdbaby@cdbaby.com to tell us more details. What happens when you click the [>] play button to the left of each song? What happens when you click the song title? What happens when you click the [PLAY ALL] button above the song list?
Does it not respond? Does it respond with an error? Does a program open, but not play?
Please email cdbaby@cdbaby.com with this info so we can help.
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Music Crap Or Not Crap That is the Question.
I Drove a Semi Over thr road.At the beginning of the day most of the music was good. At the end of the day it ALL sounded like Crap.After you hear the heart felt presentations of so many artists all day you realise that music truely
is in the Eye of The BEER Holder. Or The Heart of the Presenter or The Ear of the listener.It doesn't exist in Absolute Form.
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Hi. I too am finding that a lot of windows media players are not
able to play the music clips. I have had more than five people tell
me that on their widows media players that a message came up
and said they didn't have the right codec. I tried updating my
codecs and I tried updating the window media player. I eve tried
using other programs to open the .m3u files. But no good. But on
my macs they work just fine. Any suggestions?
BTW, thank for thinking of ways to improve the site.
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on Friday April 13 2007 @ 05:57AM PDT [ reply | parent ] |
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Hi,
Having had this problem about hearing soundclips I downloaded latest AC3 Filter, and can now hear clips. I hope this helps.
Brendan
Dublin Ireland
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I tried that today. No luck. Arrrgh!
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god damn, people! chill out, derek is obviously the fucking man for puttinga song together like this, and the fact that you're bitching about it shows how much you can't live without it. so get off his nuts and show the man some respect
kevin
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Kevin,
I am not giving Derek any disrespect. I am merely stating that there are issues with playing the music sample files. I would think he would like to know that information. If there was a functional problem with your site, wouldn't you like to know? And while I can "live without it", it certainly would be nice to have it working for everyone who wants to sample the tracks. Some people only buy music because of the samples.
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Derek, I think the new audio clips sound great. 'Play All' should
be plenty sufficient for your 10% dial-up users. As for the gent
who thinks you sold out, I'm sure you're think-skinned enough
to realize there's always some fool that says that, it's almost a
given. But personally I can think of no single company or web
site that the sell-out accusation applies LESS to! CDBaby has
become successful because (a) it's totally open and accessible to
anyone regardless of status or musical accomplishment (b) you
are an advocate for the artist, up and down--you don't bend
over for the Music Industry, the press, the VCs, or the Internet
superpowers (c) you're a great programmer and you write code
and organize your company in a way that cuts corners, saves
wastage, and makes sure the money gets to the right people as
quickly as possible with the fewest needless deductions. Keep
up the great work!
Thomas Dolby
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The clips sound more accurate, which in the case of MY music isn't always such a good thing! ;)
Hi Thomas Dolby. If you're THAT Thomas Dolby. Or even if you're not. In fact, hi everybody.
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gerryaire3.html
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CDBABY HAS BEEN A SAVING GRACE , I'VE BEEN A PRO.MUSICIAN ALL OF 35 YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN ALOT OF SO CALLED DEAL'S TO HELP THE SONGWRITER BE HEARD . ALMOST ALL OF THEM SCREW YOU OUT OF ALOT OF MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE . WHOM EVER CALLS THIS CRAP , KNOW'S NOTHING ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE IT IN THIS MEDIA . THANK'S DEREK !!!
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Some people are never satisfied lol
Just the digital distribution alone is a great deal $60 to sign up to all those different places!
How many people thought they'd have their music up on iTunes, Napster, MSN and Sony etc etc
Must be no more than a few dollars a company?
For us CD Baby is great value for money and how many sales you get out of it is up to you!
Cheers Derek :-)
John (Silvertrain)
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They'll complain here but not to anyone's face.
CD Baby does more for small bands than what huge record labels do for their small bands. All of my bands income has been from CD Baby (aside from live shows). We are on at least 67 Digital Download sites because of CD Baby, people all over the world have heard my music and bought my music because of CD Baby.
I see the audio files there as a way to sample the music, not to login every day and play all instead of supporting the artist, if you really want it to be easy to listen to, then just spend the 10-15 bucks on the CD, all the bands on CD Baby really need the support from the people out there. If everyone of our fans could do as much as CD Baby does for us we'd be Millionaires!
There is not one site out there that works this hard for bands, always trying to get our music out to more and more places, being able to help with anything I ask.
CD Baby is my record label, all they need to do now is set up some sort of networking to help bands set up tours with eachother... hmmm that might be something to think about Derek. I mean that's pretty much the only difference between CD Baby and a label, is there a way to set up some sort of CD Baby tour support? Maybe have a network of venues that are CD Baby artist friendly, I don't know how it would work, but it's an idea.
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Just wanted to mention a small point.
Some of us 'independent artists' are very much into production/mixing/mastering and certainly to us hearing higher-bitrate MP3 gives a truer representation of the quality of production of the CD in question. It also vexes us slightly to hear our own sharp sounding CDs sound dull and blocky as is the case with lower bitrates.
I also don't want to alienate dial-up users etc. :) I think an option of either world is the most appropriate solution. Maybe have a mode-switcher at the top of every page to switch between low and high quality MP3, then have that affect what files the play-all and individual track-play buttons actually load/play. Just basic JS. Failing the bother of coding some basic JS, have play-all hifi and play-all lofi buttons. Simmilarly, you could have two play buttons next to each track (hifi/lofi).
*shrugs*. Just my two-cents.
Oh, and what Julian said here is very true:
> if you really want it to be easy to listen to,
> then just spend the 10-15 bucks on the CD...
And this is a seriously cool idea, too:
> is there a way to set up some sort of CD Baby
> tour support?
I'd expand the tour support idea, though. We've got loads of cool independent artists, sorted by genre/etc...
It seems to me the great idea CD Baby could offer with regards to touring is a networking of simmilar artists to tour together. If 3 bands of simmilar genre/etc went on tour together in the name of CD Baby, things like travel costs are slashed to a third-- well, cut in half at least. For example, hiring a tourbus. Sure, you need a bigger tourbus for 3 bands which is more expensive but with 3 bands paying for it the price is about half what it would be for a band to tour by themselves. Then venue costs, PA hire, lighting effects/rigs (if you want them), pyrotechnics (again, if you want them and the venue permits), blah blah blah.
I'll stop ranting now.
--- AJT (Leitmotif)
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Oh man,
I just discovered after posting my album that the audio clips on my page are umprotected, free and save-able by visitors. They are also 2 minutes long?! Can we have a choice of the length of audio clips?! Or at least come up with an embedded player that protects our files and works with dial up! There are a number of providers like Snocap that have players that protect files, are embedded, and work on many systems. Can you partner with someone?
I know I will love CD Baby, but this is an issue for my business.
Kaveh Saidi
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> this is an issue for my business
No offense, but no : it's not.
You can ask us to make your clips any length you want. 10 seconds. 30 seconds. 300 seconds. It doesn't matter to us. 2 minutes is just the default, and we've been doing it that way for 9 years and sold millions of CDs.
We've kept track of the clients who have asked us to shorten their clip-length and EVERY TIME their sales have dropped afterwards.
Shorter clip length = less sales.
Longer clip length = more sales.
Our biggest customers, the ones who spend thousands of dollars on CDs each month, tell us the reason they love shopping here more than anywhere else is that we have good long clips that they can listen to enough to feel confident when buying.
I don't understand the mentality of thinking that someone having access to half a song is going to prevent them from buying that song.
But... and I really mean this... despite everything I've said here, you're free to ask us to change your clip length to anything at all. We're here for you to make it how you want it. I just had to chip in my opinion. Just email fixes@cdbaby.com with any changes.
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Hi Derek,
Thanks for taking the time to personally address my issue. I am a newbie to the online distribution world and am on a quick learning curve. Thanks!
Kaveh Saidi
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There's plenty of unsigned musicians & vocalists with great songwriting skills & styles - and yet unknowns in the music world just because they're not signed with a major label.
Some of those same people found a home at CD Baby, a place to sell/promote music without all the major-label red-tape. CD Baby alone brought names like guitarist Sam Pacetti & popular vocalist Pamela Wyman to the international forefront of companys like iTunes & Rhapsody & many other national sales outlets.
Big-time music exec's must choke on their cigars when they watch a totally unknown artist like CD BABY member, songwriter Jack Johnson's Brushfire Fairytales CD jet to the top in sales with virtually no commercial backing.
Hats off to CD BABY, a company that has sucessfully taken on the big-time music industry bullys.
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It's time for some "Old-School R&B/Jazz/Rap" from the "Way Back in the Day," UPDATED files of a Sly Stone Era. Musician, related to Aretha Franklin. Posessing a 5-Octave Vocal Range, playing Tenor Sax, Flute & Keys, I personally do all that you see and hear, except the final CD Mastering via http://Discmakers.com ("Compositions" is professionally mastered) .... Check me and my 4 CDs out on http://CDBaby.com/all/BlkIndianMale http://MySpace.com/BlkIndianMale and http://BlkIndianMale.com My latest CD is Entitled: "COMPOSITIONS" All Vocals (Ld. & Bkgrnd) and Musical Instruments (Live & Synth) are performed solo. ENJOY!
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Some say I sound like Barry White.... some say Philip Bailey of EWF... some say Larry Graham. What's your first impression? http://MySpace.com/BlkIndianMale ENJOY!
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Hello CD Baby
I recently changed my Website and want to know how to re-post my new one on my CD Baby page for Out of the Blue.. Thanks so much
Michael Maxwell
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I thought the green play button was supposed to play hi fi clips ! On my site they play the crappy lo fi clips. Where is the play buttons for hi fi ????? The play all feature is useless as far as I am concerned, That feature needs to downloaded to the viewers computer and does not allow you to play individual songs
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CDBABY RULES AN I PREDICT IT WILL ONLY GET BIGGER IN THIS DAY OF THE INTERNET & ONLINE TRAFFIC INCREASING
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Would you be able to give me the 2 minute clips of my songs so I can post it on my website or on Myspace?
Rory
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Some very serious valid comments and some very stupid, selfish ones. On the whole, in my opinion, well done CD Baby, keep up the good work. Now for god's sake will you all go and listen (and buy) my cd "Drat!"
Thank you.
Paul
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Hello Derek
I can't understand why a writer_recording musician who has had to struggle to create an album-cd's worth of original music, and most likely is the individual covering all the costs for being so, can complain about the very useful service you have provided for the last ten years.
If the music is a great song or album the market will dictate how the listening and buying public will reward its author anyway. Most likely, from that point on the marketing and distribution cost would be taken over by investers /label types anyway. A great song is not only rare but is easily recognized
Long story short, I respect cdbaby and am glad to have listed, finally, my first offering through your outfit. I have written and recorded another 23 different original cd's from which I will list another two of them with cd baby late spring 2009. I am not expecting any great millions because of then listings, but I sure am proud to have had the opportunity to make my music publicly available and the learning experiences of just plain having seen these projects all the way through...
Regards Derek
Shane O'Brien
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Oh Yeah
No need to have the last comment post anonymously. My first listed cd is at cdbaby.com/cd/shaneobrien
Thanks CDBABY
Shane
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